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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve given up on ordering steaks out in most cases because I feel like I can do just as good if not better at home for much less. I&#039;d rather pick up a steak from a local producer, Belmont Butchery, or a dry-aged cut from Whole Foods and do the prep myself.

That said, I give Gary at Coast props for turning out a very nice piece of beef last week. My recollection of the Bamboo steak is that it is always very good. And then of course there&#039;s the steak frites at Can Can — and steak frites is among the happiest comfort foods out there when it&#039;s done well.

As for the chain joints, I&#039;d only drop the coin if it was coming out of someone else&#039;s pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve given up on ordering steaks out in most cases because I feel like I can do just as good if not better at home for much less. I&#8217;d rather pick up a steak from a local producer, Belmont Butchery, or a dry-aged cut from Whole Foods and do the prep myself.</p>
<p>That said, I give Gary at Coast props for turning out a very nice piece of beef last week. My recollection of the Bamboo steak is that it is always very good. And then of course there&#8217;s the steak frites at Can Can — and steak frites is among the happiest comfort foods out there when it&#8217;s done well.</p>
<p>As for the chain joints, I&#8217;d only drop the coin if it was coming out of someone else&#8217;s pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookstore Piet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookstore Piet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with many of the steak house here in Richmond is that they use high-heat, fast cooking.  Instead of a true Maillard crust they end up with a carbonized crust - not tasty and very bad for you.  I&#039;ve been making steaks at home these days using a method described by Alain Ducasse - medium high heat, basting with butter and cooking for nearly 45 minutes in some cases for a medium rare.  The crust, the flavour are excellent.  Doubt you will find it served here in RVA due to the time involved but if you have any skill it is not that difficult.  http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/119838-the-best-way-to-cook-a-thick-steak/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with many of the steak house here in Richmond is that they use high-heat, fast cooking.  Instead of a true Maillard crust they end up with a carbonized crust &#8211; not tasty and very bad for you.  I&#8217;ve been making steaks at home these days using a method described by Alain Ducasse &#8211; medium high heat, basting with butter and cooking for nearly 45 minutes in some cases for a medium rare.  The crust, the flavour are excellent.  Doubt you will find it served here in RVA due to the time involved but if you have any skill it is not that difficult.  <a href="http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/119838-the-best-way-to-cook-a-thick-steak/" rel="nofollow">http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/119838-the-best-way-to-cook-a-thick-steak/</a></p>
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		<title>By: genevelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>genevelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>posted too quickly--some of the steaks at Buckheads are dry aged</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>posted too quickly&#8211;some of the steaks at Buckheads are dry aged</p>
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		<title>By: genevelyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>genevelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important to note, that all places listed here serve wet-aged beef, not dry-aged beef, which is my preference. A couple of places in town, not known for steak, serve dry-aged beef  and these are the places that where I order a steak because it will be better than what I can make at home. 

Steakhouses here (and in most cities)are about atmosphere, not the beef.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important to note, that all places listed here serve wet-aged beef, not dry-aged beef, which is my preference. A couple of places in town, not known for steak, serve dry-aged beef  and these are the places that where I order a steak because it will be better than what I can make at home. </p>
<p>Steakhouses here (and in most cities)are about atmosphere, not the beef.</p>
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		<title>By: sadlermr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sadlermr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was using the term &quot;Prime&quot; loosely. 

From what I understand, only 2 or 3 of the places that I listed actually use USDA Prime.

Shula&#039;s says that they use the Shula&#039;s Cut. which is &quot;The SHULA CUT ® is more discriminating and selective than USDA prime or choice.The SHULA CUT ® is an exclusive beef program for Angus type cattle, that has to meet eight (8) science based qualifying specifications in marbling, maturity, consistency, flavor, leanness, appearance and tenderness.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was using the term &#8220;Prime&#8221; loosely. </p>
<p>From what I understand, only 2 or 3 of the places that I listed actually use USDA Prime.</p>
<p>Shula&#8217;s says that they use the Shula&#8217;s Cut. which is &#8220;The SHULA CUT ® is more discriminating and selective than USDA prime or choice.The SHULA CUT ® is an exclusive beef program for Angus type cattle, that has to meet eight (8) science based qualifying specifications in marbling, maturity, consistency, flavor, leanness, appearance and tenderness.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: whinemedineme</title>
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		<dc:creator>whinemedineme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just informational..
usda beef is beef that has been inspected and given a usda seal of authenticity. what is the inspection criteria? ratio of marbling and youth of beef with a curiously confusing mathematical equation of some sort. 
there are eight grades;  prime, choice, select, standard, commercial, utility,  cutter and canner (highest to lowest, respectively - some places that will tell you there are only five grades). your cutter and canner beef are the ones you find in tv dinners, microwave burritos and other such things. 

certified angus beef is entirely different. cab is a organization formed specifically for that breed of cattle. it promotes &quot;an impression&quot; that its beef is of higher standards. in order for this type of beef to be labeled such by the usda, it has 10 characteristics it must follow. 

things to keep in mind: if you do NOT see the seal that says prime, it is not being served at the restaurant ( saying it is prime-aged is a bunch of bunk). if you do not see the seal that labels the beef c.a.b., it is not. variations often used to confuse such as &quot;black angus, angus, etc. a little under 8% of all beef fits into this category. A LITTLE under 1% of all beef fits into a certified angus beef USDA brand prime distinction. 

nice write up, sadler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just informational..<br />
usda beef is beef that has been inspected and given a usda seal of authenticity. what is the inspection criteria? ratio of marbling and youth of beef with a curiously confusing mathematical equation of some sort.<br />
there are eight grades;  prime, choice, select, standard, commercial, utility,  cutter and canner (highest to lowest, respectively &#8211; some places that will tell you there are only five grades). your cutter and canner beef are the ones you find in tv dinners, microwave burritos and other such things. </p>
<p>certified angus beef is entirely different. cab is a organization formed specifically for that breed of cattle. it promotes &#8220;an impression&#8221; that its beef is of higher standards. in order for this type of beef to be labeled such by the usda, it has 10 characteristics it must follow. </p>
<p>things to keep in mind: if you do NOT see the seal that says prime, it is not being served at the restaurant ( saying it is prime-aged is a bunch of bunk). if you do not see the seal that labels the beef c.a.b., it is not. variations often used to confuse such as &#8220;black angus, angus, etc. a little under 8% of all beef fits into this category. A LITTLE under 1% of all beef fits into a certified angus beef USDA brand prime distinction. </p>
<p>nice write up, sadler.</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not tried Hondos - but I heard it&#039;s just ok... 

Also, correction - Shula&#039;s serves CERTIFIED Angus Steaks.  Morton&#039;s, Shula&#039;s and Ruth Chris are some of the best chain Steakhouses Ive been to.  
I like Copper Grill inside.

Well, if only Richmond serves better food and have more variety to choose from or at least have these so called local restaurants vary up their menus.  
Ive been to Tobacco or Havana or Europa or Sensi or Sticky Rice or Caliente or these other so called local places so many times in my 8 years of stay in Richmond - the menus are the same over and over again...  In the long run, it becomes boring... 
And it&#039;s so hard to make a good recommendation for people who comes from foodie places like NY or CA...  Argggghhhh....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not tried Hondos &#8211; but I heard it&#8217;s just ok&#8230; </p>
<p>Also, correction &#8211; Shula&#8217;s serves CERTIFIED Angus Steaks.  Morton&#8217;s, Shula&#8217;s and Ruth Chris are some of the best chain Steakhouses Ive been to.<br />
I like Copper Grill inside.</p>
<p>Well, if only Richmond serves better food and have more variety to choose from or at least have these so called local restaurants vary up their menus.<br />
Ive been to Tobacco or Havana or Europa or Sensi or Sticky Rice or Caliente or these other so called local places so many times in my 8 years of stay in Richmond &#8211; the menus are the same over and over again&#8230;  In the long run, it becomes boring&#8230;<br />
And it&#8217;s so hard to make a good recommendation for people who comes from foodie places like NY or CA&#8230;  Argggghhhh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I agree with Marinara that a good sear is hard to do at home (except on my cast iron grill).&quot;

That&#039;s like saying that pasta is hard to cook at home, except in a pot full of water.  Cooking a good steak at home isn&#039;t rocket science, and good instructions can be found in books or online (Alton Brown can show you how to sear a good steak).  Room temp meat, salt 15-20 min before, pan must be hot as fuck, don&#039;t move the steak until it&#039;s time to flip.  The melted butter is more about buying good butter rather than technique.  The sides can be a little more work but for the most part aren&#039;t too difficult.  These high-end steakhouses are only worth it when it&#039;s not your money.  I live across the street from Ruth Chris and am amazed that their lot is packed every damn night of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I agree with Marinara that a good sear is hard to do at home (except on my cast iron grill).&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying that pasta is hard to cook at home, except in a pot full of water.  Cooking a good steak at home isn&#8217;t rocket science, and good instructions can be found in books or online (Alton Brown can show you how to sear a good steak).  Room temp meat, salt 15-20 min before, pan must be hot as fuck, don&#8217;t move the steak until it&#8217;s time to flip.  The melted butter is more about buying good butter rather than technique.  The sides can be a little more work but for the most part aren&#8217;t too difficult.  These high-end steakhouses are only worth it when it&#8217;s not your money.  I live across the street from Ruth Chris and am amazed that their lot is packed every damn night of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: RVA Foodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>RVA Foodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t eat/order steaks, but my parents had me appreciating fillet mignon before I turned veggie in 1992 and I still like to cook my wife&#039;s steaks for her and taste a smidge to see how I did.  I agree with Marinara that a good sear is hard to do at home (except on my cast iron grill).  And this &quot;prime&quot; distinction is a new one on me.  Glad I get to steer clear of that mess.  It seems like any governmental intervention causes the market to adapt and contort itself to take even more money from the consumer, making it really hard to know what to buy and where (especially with all the sameness of bourgie chains).  I agree with Bassett that cross-cultrual/creative/artisinal places are where it&#039;s at. And if sides are the deciding factor between the chains, the smaller places probably blow them outta the water with creativity and flare.  By the way, Infuzion sells a 32oz steak for dinner. I forget what cut it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t eat/order steaks, but my parents had me appreciating fillet mignon before I turned veggie in 1992 and I still like to cook my wife&#8217;s steaks for her and taste a smidge to see how I did.  I agree with Marinara that a good sear is hard to do at home (except on my cast iron grill).  And this &#8220;prime&#8221; distinction is a new one on me.  Glad I get to steer clear of that mess.  It seems like any governmental intervention causes the market to adapt and contort itself to take even more money from the consumer, making it really hard to know what to buy and where (especially with all the sameness of bourgie chains).  I agree with Bassett that cross-cultrual/creative/artisinal places are where it&#8217;s at. And if sides are the deciding factor between the chains, the smaller places probably blow them outta the water with creativity and flare.  By the way, Infuzion sells a 32oz steak for dinner. I forget what cut it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Bassett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Bookbinder&#039;s are they Prime?  Are they even still in Richmond?  it&#039;s been a while for me ...

With all that said, I don&#039;t get the proliferation of what basically amount to interchangeable places.  Part of it might be that there&#039;s more a market for it than there ever was in richmond before, since the city is growing at a good clip.

As far as why they stay in business, I think the expense account angle is a good one, but i also think it&#039;s a thing that people like eating places that are familiar, or at least have familiar names.  I love trying new places and new dishes, but let&#039;s face it, folks discussing food on this blog are more the &quot;early adopter&quot; types than the laggards.  

I think Richmond will get to more of an artisinal cuisine city like Portland OR in a few years (there&#039;s not a lot of distractions with sports or whatever) but I think that for the masses, it&#039;s gotta be baby steps first.  As a Jets fan, I&#039;ll probably never step inside a Shula&#039;s but it&#039;s presence validates a burgeoning community of people who enjoy dining.  Hopefully, they&#039;ll graduate to more cross-cultrual/creative/artisinal places soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Bookbinder&#8217;s are they Prime?  Are they even still in Richmond?  it&#8217;s been a while for me &#8230;</p>
<p>With all that said, I don&#8217;t get the proliferation of what basically amount to interchangeable places.  Part of it might be that there&#8217;s more a market for it than there ever was in richmond before, since the city is growing at a good clip.</p>
<p>As far as why they stay in business, I think the expense account angle is a good one, but i also think it&#8217;s a thing that people like eating places that are familiar, or at least have familiar names.  I love trying new places and new dishes, but let&#8217;s face it, folks discussing food on this blog are more the &#8220;early adopter&#8221; types than the laggards.  </p>
<p>I think Richmond will get to more of an artisinal cuisine city like Portland OR in a few years (there&#8217;s not a lot of distractions with sports or whatever) but I think that for the masses, it&#8217;s gotta be baby steps first.  As a Jets fan, I&#8217;ll probably never step inside a Shula&#8217;s but it&#8217;s presence validates a burgeoning community of people who enjoy dining.  Hopefully, they&#8217;ll graduate to more cross-cultrual/creative/artisinal places soon.</p>
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